and washington columnist kim strasle. so, dan, this rubio strategy, what do you think of it? >> i think it's probably -- other than the fund-raising possibilities for all the principals involved, that aside, i think as a strategy, the way we're describing it now, or we will describe it, it will have a lot of detail in it. and the problem is, this is about the budget, okay. >> right, funding the whole government. >> which is invariably a complex subject. if they pursue this strategy about funding obama care, yeah, i think they're going to get some support for it. they're going to get the support of about 43% of the country. the rest of the country watches this. it will roll forward towards the shutdown and then all, i'm convinced, all of the media coverage will immediately start. every tv station out there talking about the effects of a government shutdown. and i think this tsunami of negative coverage is simply going to wash the republicans out to sea one more time. people are not going to be able to focus on the complex details of this strategy. >> it will be kind of like th